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04 Aug 2017 01:26:36
Just looking to see how people feel about 'based on a true story' films. I'm referring to the likes of captain Philips, American sniper, blind side. Now I can't stand them. Not because they are not good films but because of the over the top manner in which a titular character has their 'true stoey'

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{Ed001's Note - I always find myself wondering how true they are, they always seem to show their 'hero' in far too good a light to be true. Though I do really like Killer Elite and that is based on a true story, but the 'hero' so to speak, whose story it is based on, is not shown in the best light really, so maybe that is why?}


1.) 04 Aug 2017 05:01:55
Not sure about Capt Phillips, but I felt it was a really good film.

Blind Side was a good film as well, but they actually changed a lot of things compared to the real story (from what I've read of course).

13 Hours was good as well, even entertaining in terms of its action. But I tend to not to believe much when war films claimed to be true stories. This is because of Black Hawk Down, in which they changed too much of the story, and the film was actually a complete fiction and loosely based on the real event.


2.) 04 Aug 2017 05:07:20
It depends, a lot are cringe-inducing but they occasionally turn out to be fantastic films especially when the directors and screenwriters use a little artistic licence to spice up the story. For example, The Social Network, Catch Me if You Can and Goodfellas are all 'based on a true story' even though some of it had been totally made up for the sake of telling a good story.

{Ed001's Note - do you actually like 'The Social Network'? It was cack, being nice.}


3.) 04 Aug 2017 05:10:48
Yea, I thought it was a good film, one of the best in recent times to be honest. Why don't you like it, ed001?

{Ed001's Note - because it was completely fake and nothing like reality. Bit like Zuckerberg himself.... Oh and Jesse Eisenberg is a terrible actor, which doesn't help it in my eyes. He just gets on my nerves and makes my teeth clench.}


4.) 04 Aug 2017 05:18:41
I agree it's completely fake but I don't think anyone would have wanted to watch a movie where everybody was just coding all the time haha.

{Ed001's Note - would be better than anything involving Eisenberg trying to actually act.}


5.) 04 Aug 2017 09:35:08
Ed i'm not saying they are all drop the ball in terms of portraying the real story, in the name of the father with Pete postlethwaite is one of my favourite films ever. As far as i can tell it is reasonable accurate to history. Just the over dramatisation of a simple story is what gets me annoyed.

Haizan, captain Phillips was welcomed with open arms critically, just like the other two I mentioned, but has constantly been ridiculed for the amount of major changes to the actual events. I think the difference with the likes of goodfellas, wolf of wall street, Mr nice and catch me if you can is that the films are based on the books by the titular character. Small difference but enough that I feel they don't portray themselves as completely factual imo.

Fargo is another that comes to mind that is a great film but has so little connection to the real events it is a fabrication, I'm sure the coens have joked about this topic in interviews, and how the 'based on true events' tag was a way of testing what was acceptable in Hollywood.

What I don't get is why do they attempt to portray themselves as a true story when it easily provable that it isn't? Why not just be a film about a boat hijacking, or ptsd in soldiers, or cops solving a murder?

Anyway that's my moan for today.

{Ed001's Note - I have to say I agree with you.}


6.) 04 Aug 2017 11:03:25
Now only I get what you mean. And yes, agreed. But films are products, by putting the tagline "true story", maybe they will be more marketable and able to gain more audiences.

I think during the 90s (I am not really sure, or maybe early 2000s), they tend to ad the films more by using "from the director and producer of bla bla" or "from the author or writer of bla bla". Or just simply cast hot and popular actors. Right?


7.) 04 Aug 2017 11:51:35
Again Haizan I know what you are saying but a product that portrays itself to be one thing but is infact another thing is surely a bad product?

As for the 'from the director off. ' style taglines hitchcock was renowned for using them back in the 60s and I'm sure there are earlier and more abundant examples I can't think of now.

Also hot and popular actors have always, I repeat always, been cast in films as a way to boost their marketability. Marilyn munroe, Greta garb, cary grant, errol flynn, Clarke gable, Paul Newman, Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Hepburn etc etc


 

 

22 Dec 2016 11:11:14
Blackfish (2013)

Now I have watched this a few times but forced the in laws to sit down and watch it last night and was totally shocked on their ignorance of the subject.

As someone who had visited the Florida park many moons ago I, like most, thought that these animals were in places of high care that it could be excused for the small display tanks etc as the backstage was expected to be perfect conditions.

When the documentary talks about the park in Canada, sealand? My mother in law actually started crying. As a highly educated lady in her 60s I felt that she would have had this subject encroach upon her life in some way. Her response enforced upon me that this film is needed to be seen by all cinema goers. If you have seen it, please recommend to friends and family. If you gave not seen it yet please do.

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1.) 23 Dec 2016 06:21:16
I have never even heard of this film before. I will have a look for it and see if I can find it to watch.


2.) 23 Dec 2016 10:28:43
Is this the one on netflix atm? I have watched it and its just another example of big companies more worried about the bottom line rather then the health of its animals and workers. Actually quite shocking. I will never take my kids to anything like that after watching this.


3.) 23 Dec 2016 14:36:25
Yeah James it's on Netflix at the moment. It's an absolutely devastating watch. Shows how many deaths/injuries were completely avoidable and unnecessary. Look out for the shot where a dossier of park incidents is shown but specifically look at the dates and how close they are and how little was represented in the media.


4.) 23 Dec 2016 16:28:30
Fantastic documentary albeit very sad,I also urge everyone to watch the cove,even more shocking but needs to be seen by everyone so the scumbags can be exposed


5.) 24 Dec 2016 18:21:02
I went to Seaworld Florida when I was younger and thought it was great. I went back a few years ago and thought it was horrendous.

Everything looks so much bigger when you're a kid.


 

 

21 Aug 2016 11:44:02
So suicide squad. What a shame. All the right ingredients but unfortunately not the right chef. Leto nailed it, as did Davis. Flag, enchantress, croc, and to an extent Harley were all good characters. The others not so much. As I said before the film would hinge on will smith and I think he blew it, his best scene was when talking with his daughter towards the end of the film but otherwise a 6/10 performance. Thing that bugged me the most was the character bios, looked cheesey and a cheat of a way to introduce the characters.

Overall a decent popcorn flick but no better than 6 or 7 out of ten, if I'm generous. Just think the DCU is starting a dangerous trend with their films. None have really exceeded a 7/10 so far in my opinion.

El Paso

{Ed001's Note - agreed.}


 

 

24 Jul 2016 12:06:26
So the teaser trailer for justice league just dropped, not much given away but seems to be a more polished approach than when BvS was released. Maybe the DCU has learnt its lesson and is trying to concentrate on character progression rather than blockbuster action, only time will tell. Only gripe is Bruce Wayne's ease of announcing he's batman. Still with this and suicide squad coming up the future looks bright for the DCU.

Also dr strange trailer 2 released and looks like the MCU is really embracing the magical elements of their back catalogue. With the likes of Thor, dr strange, and possibly captain marvel all explained with magical abilities they seem to be setting up a good counter to The technologically based super Heros they have already established.

El Paso

{Ed001's Note - I am looking forward to Suicide Squad in a couple of weeks.}


1.) 25 Jul 2016 11:49:29
Suicide squad looks like it will be a game changer, and personally I think it is down to the success of guardians. Guardians showed Hollywood that a little known team of Heros/anti-Heros can be a successful blockbuster. After the relative failures of the likes of watchmen I think it gave studios the confidence to keep investing in the little know comic book groups. I do however think the film will hinge on smiths execution. If he nails dead shot I think any flaws will be easily overlooked, if not then the dcu will have trouble explaining why all their upcoming films deserve the funding.


 

 

27 Feb 2014 17:35:48
Sorry eds just realised I made a few posts today without logging in :)

el paso {Ed001's Note - no worries mate, it happens.}

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28 Jun 2018 11:28:49
I feel Logan has opened the door for harder rated xmen/marvel films but I can't see the studios commiting to a hard r crossover film.

I feel the problem, especially with the mcu, is the alienation of the majority of the fan base. As a comic book nerd in my 30s I always feel like I'm the target audience of these films but my head tells me otherwise.

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{Ed001's Note - they are missing the fact that the majority of their fan base are older now if that is true. Most are in the 30s and 40s, even older, who grew up reading the comics as kids and never stopped. Most of the comics grew up with them.}


 

 

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27 Jun 2018 22:16:16
Saw a screen junkies video after the first came out talking about how deadpool could cameo in the pg13 xmen/marvel universe.

The consensus was that he would be best used in the same way he is in comic crossovers, that he still breaks fourth wall but instead of it being shot as banter between him and the audience, it is a wider shot with the other characters reacting to him talking to thin air.

Another great idea they had was that he would be building up to dropping the f bomb but be beaten to it by wolverine. This would then lead into a bleep filled rant.

I think it would be hard to include him but could be done.

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{Ed001's Note - it has been made easier by the success of Logan. Now they know they can be more adult and still succeed.}


 

 

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04 Aug 2017 11:51:35
Again Haizan I know what you are saying but a product that portrays itself to be one thing but is infact another thing is surely a bad product?

As for the 'from the director off. ' style taglines hitchcock was renowned for using them back in the 60s and I'm sure there are earlier and more abundant examples I can't think of now.

Also hot and popular actors have always, I repeat always, been cast in films as a way to boost their marketability. Marilyn munroe, Greta garb, cary grant, errol flynn, Clarke gable, Paul Newman, Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Hepburn etc etc

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04 Aug 2017 09:35:08
Ed i'm not saying they are all drop the ball in terms of portraying the real story, in the name of the father with Pete postlethwaite is one of my favourite films ever. As far as i can tell it is reasonable accurate to history. Just the over dramatisation of a simple story is what gets me annoyed.

Haizan, captain Phillips was welcomed with open arms critically, just like the other two I mentioned, but has constantly been ridiculed for the amount of major changes to the actual events. I think the difference with the likes of goodfellas, wolf of wall street, Mr nice and catch me if you can is that the films are based on the books by the titular character. Small difference but enough that I feel they don't portray themselves as completely factual imo.

Fargo is another that comes to mind that is a great film but has so little connection to the real events it is a fabrication, I'm sure the coens have joked about this topic in interviews, and how the 'based on true events' tag was a way of testing what was acceptable in Hollywood.

What I don't get is why do they attempt to portray themselves as a true story when it easily provable that it isn't? Why not just be a film about a boat hijacking, or ptsd in soldiers, or cops solving a murder?

Anyway that's my moan for today.

El Paso

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05 Jul 2017 20:00:08
Sorry think I posted too early let me know if it got throufh.

I think the origins on themyscira could have been fleshed out more. Especially as there are so many great characters there buy as they are 'immortal' they can come in later films but just felt wasted.

Felt the pacing was good and the score, especially backing on action scenes was again well executed.

Finally I think gal ga dot really looks the part and really is believable as an amazon warrior.

All in all a very good film but by no means perfect.

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